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just n from bethel
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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just n from bethel
Otherwise they would be in heaven and have been living in paradise now for thousands of years
So Dan, not to get into this too much with you. I know you get pretty emotional about this stuff - so don't take offense and leave for good again. But what you just said is saying that 'God wanted another angel so that's why he took someone's child'. I know you're trying to rationalize the obvious conflicting data of the Bible's version of God the tyrant, with Jesus the Children lover; but just like the JWs can't really do it, neither can fundie Xianty.
I know some here have found a way to be ok with believing in God and Christ while at the same time thinking that not all stories in the Bible, particularly ones of destruction and annihilation by God's hand, are factual true events - or that if they are, God sure wasn't involved. Maybe talking to some of them would help ease your cognitive dissonance. I think PSac has a pretty good handle on that kind of viewpoint.
I wish I could help more. It's not that I'm not open to believing in the supernatural and religous viewpoints, (I'm not an athiest, agnostic, deist, thiest or any other ism or classified belief system). I just don't care. As a JW, I've lived my life telling everybody else that they were wrong. I've never had a day go by when religious discussions and thoughts weren't brought up. I'm bored with it all. One thing I know is that numbers and math don't lie. That's why the global flood never happened. That's why the preaching work of JWs, and Christianity in general, and the Bible distribution have failed. The numbers just aren't there for Xianty (at least fundamental literal believers in the Bible, like JWs). And as the numbers don't lie, then indeed God's supposed plan of action for unbelievers in the bible, speaks for itself as to the kind of God he is.
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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I'm with you whereami, in not getting into it with those who fight over whose version of imaginary killer unicorns are the prettiest.
I really didn't think the new born-agains (from JWs to Christian fundies) would come out on this thread. But here they are rationalizing away why the big guy kills babies and rapes women. From 'oh it's different in the OT than the NT' to 'you're taking it out of context' etc. etc. Then finally comes the whole rehashed JW argument: in clearly spoken language: "Only God is the judge and he is just and loving", but simultaneously under their breath: "but yeah, he's gonna kill a lot of people that don't utter the magic words, I believe Jesus is my savior".
I get that a lot of folks have a desire to continue on with their inherited cultural presupposositions, I'm just yet amazed that the version is still basically the same no matter what Judeo, Christian, or other contemporary monotheistic belief system one adheres to: believe like me or God will kill you - and your children.
And new Christian fundies have the gall to wonder why so many former JWs [or name your brand of former Xians] don't take to their new but same version of Christianity.
Here's another statistic: almost 20% of the world who are old enough to read, cannot. That is as of 2010. Go back 50 or 100+ years and it's a lot more. Yet God's way to communicate Christ to the entire world so as to "save" them - is through the Bible? - And reading the 1000+ page book alone is not enough because it is so easily misunderstood (Great job God.) -Instead you have to get the "spirit" to understand it??? Not to mention accessibility to it in the first place.
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Feb. 15th WT - WT Society says DFed Ones are Lawless- Just Like Demons
by flipper ini would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
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just n from bethel
Tammy - you're too kind. After all, DJ never went off topic in his gargantuan posts .
Here we see he completely stayed on topic:
"Do your kids engage in sexual relations to their boyfriend or to their girlfriend? Do any of them use any form of birth control when engaging in premarital sexual relations? Do they practice "safe sex" through the use of condoms? Are any of them sterile due to having contracted chlamydia during their teenage years, so that they are unable to have children or are not able or willing to get married for fear they might unintentionally pass on human papilloma virus (HPV), or some incurable disease like Herpes simplex or Kaposi's sarcoma-associated herpes virus (HHV-8) to their spouse, or maybe unwittingly affect their child with a loathsome disease at some point during the marriage, should they marry? Not my children. My children know that in Christ there is no such thing as "safe sex.""
I think we'll all agree that his words are 100% on the topic of the OP. ;)
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If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?
by just n from bethel ini just looked up some population statistics.
i saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today.
(didn't research too hard - just googled it.
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I just looked up some population statistics. I saw there are over a billion children under the age of 10 on the earth today. (Didn't research too hard - just googled it. Please correct me if better data is available).
In another post, a recent JW apologetic poster, made the claim that the number of people who would survive God's impending day of judgement, would only total a few million, at best.
I know this is a touchy subject that JWs love to avoid - because they'd rather not admit their loving God would do that. But that is their teaching - so kudos to DJeggnog for confirming it for all lurkers to see.
A billion children under the age of 10. They're going to all die because 1) they were born in the wrong part of the world and the JWs never got around to giving a tract to their parents, many of whom couldn't read anyway.... or 2) their parents were lucky enough to get that tract about false religion being destroyed, but the parents mistakenly thought JWs were false because of their pedophile cover ups ... or 3) [name your reason why their parents are not a JW]
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Feb. 15th WT - WT Society says DFed Ones are Lawless- Just Like Demons
by flipper ini would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
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just n from bethel
DJegghead - I seemed to have touched a nerve - you went off on an unrelated tangent...again, like you always do.
Anyway, you said in the first and only 2 sentences I made it through:
I don't have a double standard,
Say what you want - your presence says otherwise. It speaks louder than any of your words. But carry on. Hypocrites like you help more lurkers leave the org than any full blown apostate. The more you blather - the more doubting JWs visiting here leave the religion for good. All. Thanks. To. You.
but unlike you, I don't suffer from ignorance.
Wow - right off the bat, your post reeks of sophistication. I can play this game too. Here goes: I know you are but what am I?
BTW, you're off-topic
No, not at all, the topic is all about DFd ones and the watchtower's view of them... now, not from 74. Therefore, you either believe the watchtower or you don't. If you believed the watchtower in regards to disfellowshipped ones, you would not be here engaging with them. End of story. That makes you a) not really a true JW or b) a hypocrite or c) completely full of crap. Personally, I think it's all of the above.
PS - did I get all my spelling right? Anytime I reply to you, I usually post by my cell phone's web browser; and I do it with one hand while bossing # 2 around at my indoor sinkhole, if you smell my drift (I did a special one just for you). I just want to make sure it all comes out right (oh wait that's a double entendre) because I know how you like to copy and paste these posts into your little spell check and then lift yourself up like a 3rd grade catholic school teacher. Trouble is, have you actually ever read any of your own rambling posts? You seriously might be overdue for some remedial English classes. In addition to your marathon sentence run-ons, you might start with some basic sentence structure. Well go on now, do what you love to do with this post which took me 3 minutes and three wipes - take it, spend an hour or two thinking about how you're going to reply and make it all nice and neat, and of course, spell-checked. But please, write a reply, I love to know that you spend hours upon hours deliberating over your dialogue here with DF JWs, all for the purpose of coming up with what you think is the perfect response to former JWs posts that only took us a few seconds to jot down. The funny thing is- the end result is your post is extremely effective with all the lurking JWs. Becuase of you, they finally make up their mind and leave the org. Congratualtions. You would make the GB proud.
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Feb. 15th WT - WT Society says DFed Ones are Lawless- Just Like Demons
by flipper ini would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
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just n from bethel
OMG - this one is priceless - come on DJ - I now realize you're just putting us on. Either way you're hilarious. I want to be in your hall - looks like it's a lot of fun:
When someone masturbates in their car when they are out in field service or smokes a (marijuana) joint in one of the Kingdom Hall bathrooms or finds ways to touch a sister's behind, when a married brother finds ways to visit a single sister at her home to bond with her children, exchange foolish romantic barbs and/or receive sexual intimacies without going "all the way," or when someone has made it a habit of making unseemly, obscene gestures or telling obscene or risque jokes, these things would not be becoming to a Christian.
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Feb. 15th WT - WT Society says DFed Ones are Lawless- Just Like Demons
by flipper ini would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
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Hi all - My name is DJ egghead - I'm your typical hard-core apologetic JW. I don't have to follow the command to not associate with all of you because I'm special. Also - I can't wait for all of you to die. I love that billions and billions of people will be killed - including many children and babies. Praise Jah.
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Feb. 15th WT - WT Society says DFed Ones are Lawless- Just Like Demons
by flipper ini would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
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just n from bethel
This line from DJ Egghead speaks for itself (bold mine):
Only eight people survived the destruction of that ancient world of Noah's and maybe only a few million will be numbered among the survivors of "the heavens and the earth that are now" (2 Peter 3:7), so what other alternative is there other than death? Personally, I'd rather tow Jehovah's line and let you perish while calling this "line" with your last gasp "WT society control."
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Feb. 15th WT - WT Society says DFed Ones are Lawless- Just Like Demons
by flipper ini would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.
the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".
anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".
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just n from bethel
The good thing to know is that DJeggnong admits he is now lawless by coming here and interacting with disfellowshipped ones. I just love how JWs get to make their own rules and give themselves exceptions to their leaders' rules when it's convenient. Thanks for reminding all of us of your double standards. Also, thanks for continuing to provide us with your wholesome association - it's great to be able to discuss spiritual matters with good standing JWs like yourself. I always thought that being DFd would mean we would have to "cut ourself off from the kind of association we may have had..." Thank you for gracing us with your association. I realize that you are commanded to not even say a greeting to us. You've done much more - and for that - we thank you.